Grok 4.5 is a bigger deal than Fable

In this episode I bring Nick Vasilescu, co-founder of Orgo, back on the show to unpack the buzz around Grok 4.5. Nick makes the case for treating Grok 4.5 as a genuine AI co-founder inside harnesses like Hermes and OpenClaw, and he proves it live: spinning up cloud computers, wiring in tools, and building a full startup from idea to landing page to outreach.

It goes beyond the title with direct discussion of grok, https, agent, including: Nick makes the case for treating Grok 4.5 as a genuine AI co-founder inside harnesses like Hermes and OpenClaw, and he proves it live: spinning up cloud computers, wiring in tools,.

1. 01Nick makes the case for treating Grok 4.5 as a genuine AI co-founder inside harnesses like Hermes and OpenClaw, and he proves it live: spinning up cloud computers, wiring in tools,
2. 02We race Grok 4.5 against GPT 5.6 Sol, tour Nick's agent stack, and talk through the cost paradox of a model this fast and cheap
3. 03Listeners walk away with a concrete playbook for standing up their own always-on agent today